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Originally Posted by SpeakersCorner
UntoHim, Igzy,
I've been working all afternoon and evening, thinking and rethinking my last post. Was it a cheap shot? I don't know. At any rate, I don't feel good about it so I offer my apology. I realize many of you have moved on past your original departure and view this board as a ministry.
Again, I spoke rashly and feel I was especially unfair to UntoHim, who welcomed me back graciously.
Please forgive me.
SC
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Apology appreciated and accepted. I don't post here near as much as I used to. The endless discussion of the financial shenanigans of the movement doesn't interest me much. My interest is in helping people.
But when something interesting happens, like you returning, I perk up. I've always waited for that one LCM member who will honestly and openly discuss objections to the movement and its teachings and practices. I have yet to meet one who will do it for more than a few posts. Once you pin them down they disappear. It's like clockwork. They say they don't like the death or whatever. But the fact is they don't have answers.
LCMers believe what they believe because its their culture. I met three Mormon young men in California last summer. They were wholesome and really the kind of men you'd like your daughter to bring home. I think they were true believers. They just didn't believe Jesus was God. I debated with them to little avail. But later I thought to ask
, If we all believe in the same God and Savior, then why is it that you believe that 99% of the believers are wrong about the divinity of Christ and you are right? The answer of course is that they believe they are right because their culture told them they are.
The LCM mind works much the same way. Lee is the "best" not because his theology has produced the goods, but because it's the LCM culture to believe it. They hope against hope that he will make a comeback. But it's not going to happen in our western culture of tolerance and multiculturalism. Lee was too exclusive. That makes him radioactive. Add in the scandals, the lawsuits, the excommunications, and you have DOA. Nee was lily white (until recently anyway), but interest in him is fading with time. Thinking Lee will ever be popular is dreaming.
And why should he be? Is the point that he be lifted up? If you think he had some good things to share then pass those on and see what kind of reaction you get. But trying to sell Lee as a package is a waste of time. The Great Commission is not about pushing former teachers.
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Thinking that Lee alone has what the world needs and that there is a huge conspiracy of the Devil and everyone else to block it is just plain silly. That's the kind of thing Ayn Rand followers believe.