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Old 04-20-2015, 10:40 AM   #46
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Default Re: The lonely God

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Originally Posted by Ohio View Post
Yes, God lacks sin, but then why did He get as close as possible to it? He was made in the likeness of the flesh of sin, made in all respects like us, yet without sin. This, however, was apparently a disclaimer hidden in a footnote when Jesus walked the earth, since He was publicly accused of being a wine-bibber, and known associate of hookers.

For some strange reason, our God wants to marry mankind, not just die for us. If He didn't like sin, then why didn't He just propose in the garden? He may surely be a holy and righteous God, but I can't help but think that He has done little to protect His good name. I think somehow God wants "sin" in His lineage, at least the redeemed kind, and lots of it. I marvel that forever on the throne sits the Lamb, imagine that, a Lamb on the throne, who died, no doubt, for our sins, yet remains a Lamb on the throne nevertheless, and it is this Lamb who gets married.
I like this thread. Now we are talking about God "needing" sin.

I think God's ultimate goal regarding sin is to get his creation to the point where free will exists but sin does not happen. God won't just turn off free will in eternity future, we will just all always choose not to sin. The only way that can happen is by creation learning the consequences of sin firsthand to a sufficient extent--not only by what it did to us, but also by what it cost our Creator. That's what's happening in time. As apologists say, this world may not be the best possible world, but it's the best way to the best possible world.

Free will is necessary for true love to exist. The problem with free will is, history shows, it can lead to sin. First some angels, then us. Free will needs to be tempered by a process of learning how to use it. That's what creation is passing through now. So God "needs" sin to teach to avoid it, and to show exactly how he reacts to it, in justice and mercy and everything else.
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