[OBW]

aron,

I started to use some quotes from your post, but decided against it. I think that anyone can find the relevant parts.

The thing to me that this reveals about the Bible is that is is more likely to be the actual writing of real people as they would talk and within what they would understand. Surely God gave revelation. And in some cases somewhat dictated the content of portions. But the actual writing was what the writers could muster. No claims that otherwise illiterate men were given dictation to transcribe word-for-word, thereby taking them out of the writing. No. That is not what we accept as God's word. It is written down by real people in the way that they can understand, and in many cases through what they saw and heard firsthand, not just what was handed down from others.

So when someone writes that the Word was God and that the Word become flesh, and then later wrote that the oneness of the Father and Son could be realized by Jesus' followers (and that the world could even see it an recognize it), then it should be evident that this writer did not somehow contemplate that the Word was both the Son and the Father who are simply the same because that would make the later prayer that we (human Christians) be one as they are one ridiculous and unable to be observed by anyone.

And it demonstrates that what the writer thought he was writing is very important. It is assumed that he is not some kind of idiot who just says contradictory things without noticing. Neither is he writing in a trance-like state the words supplied by a supreme being for our bafflement. So the ridiculous claim that "they are just the same" is not reasonable, or even logical, to be accepted.

That means that when you referred to Lee as taking logic and running it "across the Bible," you had to mean that Lee took a construct that appeared logical, but only after you bought the illogic that came before it. One of those "every thinking man knows that . . ." ruses that he used to get us to declare ourselves as thinking men as we take whatever Lee said (without thinking) and then follow on like sheep to the slaughter.

And Lee was not the first of the pied pipers of the LCM to do that. Nee did it almost as much. Just make statements and assume that everyone would accept them as true without thinking about it.