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Originally Posted by OBW
You have no basis for saying that other than your apparent disdain for what I am bringing to the table and preference for the opposite of it. You don't have a lot of room to talk about demeanor.
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No, the basis is how you've come across for years on this board. The reason I said what I said is because of the way you act around here. For example, you said I've given "no evidence" for saying that the Bible supports the experience of Christ. Well that's a flat out lie, bro. Either that or you are not reading my posts. I've given plenty of evidence. Now, you might not agree with my conclusions. But don't say I haven't given any evidence. That kind of statement, consistently exhibited by you over the years, shows a lack of honesty, humility and graciousness.
I don't dismiss obedience. I'm very serious about it. But obedience means following the Holy Spirit's enlightenment of what the Word means. Obedience means following the Lord. It doesn't mean following the dead letter. It doesn't mean reading the Bible in the vacuum of your own thoughts and then coming up with a theory and carrying that out and calling yourself obedient for doing it. A truly obedient person is obedient to the Spirit, and that produces the fruit of the Spirit, love, joy, peace, gentleness, kindness, etc, and I don't see that in you enough to believe your philosophy produces the goods.
Your mischaracterization and dismissive attitude, the way you consistently take apart another person's argument and put it back together in a way they didn't mean, shows a lack of respect for others. It shows a lack of love and care. I just get tired of it. I've heard many people here complain about it. So I'm not the only one. Then, getting this kind of feedback from several directions, you turn around and, instead of a little self-reflection about how you might change your approach, you try to turn it around on them and say they don't have a good argument, or they are inferior in some way or something. But the problem couldn't be you. Oh no.
I admit I can come on strong and sometimes that offends people. I've apologized for that several times, including to you. I've considered long and hard whether the problem might be me. Have you? I don't think you give it a second thought. Certainly not enough to change. I've been corrected on this board and I take it to heart. Ohio popped me good a while back and God said "listen to him" and I did. You never listen. I can not once remember you apologizing or expressing regret for anything you've ever done, except regretting wasting your words on the great unwashed here. If anybody complains to you about what you do, you always rationalize it away or accuse them of trying to change the subject. The problem is never you.
The bottom line for me is we had a confrontation like this a couple of years ago. I knew we couldn't work it out by writing back and forth, and I wanted to get past it and get a better chance at understanding you. So I sent you my phone number and asked you to call me. I believed if we talked we could get past things because I'd done that with others here. But you refused to call. That showed me you weren't really interested in understanding or reconciliation, you were more concerned with just arguing online because, I don't know, I guess you feel like you have an advantage. But for my money, you're not really interested in being vulnerable and honest with a Christian brother. I've seen you bully too many people here and I'm tired of it. I wish I had a dollar for every complaint about you I've ever received.
But you'll probably turn around and accuse me of some tactic to win an argument. Like I give a darn about this stupid argument.