03-11-2015, 08:20 PM
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Re: LSM’s Ignorance of the Synoptic Problem - Nigel Tomes
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Originally Posted by awareness
Bro Ohio,
Let's have a Bible battle.  You can prolly look forward to the joy of winning ... but I'll give it try ... just for fun. I gave up tracking my life by the Bible decades ago ... and lost much of what I had memorized back in the LC.
So you say they were cousins. But Mark's account differs:
Mar 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
And this is extra-biblical but it provides a window into how the 2nd c. fathers, that applied the names to the gospels, thought back then:
"There are four principle winds, four pillars that hold up the sky, and four
corners of the universe; therefore, it is only right that there be four
gospels."
-- Church father Irenaeus, late 2nd century
So you are telling me that Matthew was writing about the most important person in all history, that carried eternal consequences for the whole world and all of mankind, that he, Matthew, was an eyewitness to, but he decided to write his gospel as if he weren't an eyewitness. Sorry, that just doesn't make sense to me. What does make sense to me is that whoever wrote Matthew used Mark, and other sources, such as Q, and M, to compile it.
Oh that's not true. If the gospels had been signed all the scholars would accept it as fact, and me too. Instead it is a fact that the names of the gospels, or "according to" was added to them in the 2nd c.
Or were those that applied the names to the gospels miraculously inspired of God too? Where's the Bible state that?
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Yo awareness ... Im on vacation ... Ill get in trouble if i do bible study.
The verse you quoted .. That James is the brother of the Lord, the one who wrote the epistle, not the cousin of the Lord who was a disciple and murdered by Herod. Compare John 19.25 and Matthew 27.56
When john wrote his gospel, he referred to himself as the disciple whom He loved.
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