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We can all become hardened in our views the longer we spend here.
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Not me. I become softened. When I encounter other views it makes me realize that my views are just one among many.
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Originally Posted by Ohio
These recent articles by Tomes have addressed Lee's adherence to older Christian scholarship, with the complete rejection of the modern. I have seen little to persuade me that, in this regard, Lee displayed serious shotcomings.
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I can't trust Lee concerning anything. If Lee set early dates for the gospels, I'm inclined to later dates, just because it's Lee.
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Christians for centuries have dissed the new in favor of the old, prefering the test of time to vett out the good from the worthless.
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Yes, and has done their best, with burning at the stake, to hold back science, like with Giordano Bruno & Galileo.
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It seems to me that the contempory solution to the so-called synoptic problem is to apply later and later dates to the writing of the gospels. Eventually even these "scholars" have realized that probably the authors could not have lived a hundred years or more. Since many, if not most, of the apostles were martyred during Nero's reign of terror, its hard to believe all the Gospels were written post-temple destruction.
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Let's do a little mind & math game. We're not sure who wrote the gospels but let's say the disciple did. I understand the disciples were young when Jesus recruited them. Let's say they were 20 yrs old when Jesus departed into the clouds. That would mean they were in their early 60s after Jerusalem was sacked. So later dates for the gospels, even if written by disciples, would be possible.
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Then the "scholars" conclude that perhaps the Gospels are forgeries, ...
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Well there were forgeries in the primitive Christian days, ascribed to apostles. Like Nee discovered, Christians lie (he should know, he was one). And I'm not completely informed but I haven't run across any Bible scholars that claim the gospels were forgeries. Why? because there's no claims by the gospel writers that they were written by apostles. There's no claim in the gospels of who wrote them. No one signed them. So scholars admit the truth: that the gospels were anonymously written.
But most scholars believe the gospel we call John was written at the end of the 1st c. And I've read some scholars who believe -- based upon Acts 4:13, that John was illiterate -- that John was actually written by the Johannine school in Ephesus, from what they got from John, or maybe dictated by John. It's no coincident, I suppose, that it was in Ephesus that 500 yrs prior Heraclitus coined the word Logos, and the gospel of John opens with the word Logos. I think we owe a debt of gratitude, to that pagan.
God works in mysterious ways. Even today.