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Originally Posted by Thankful Jane
The problem in the LC is that there was not healthy oversight and there was never any admission that the blessing was lost. If anyone dared suggest that this might have happened, then they and those in their tent who were targeted as the troublemakers... been there, done that... i.e., if you name a problem, you are the problem. (To me, this is similar to what has happened in the resistance shown to this topic on this thread.)
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Much of the oversight was not healthy because it did not come from the local elders, but rather from a headquarters. The loss of blessing gnawed at me for years, all the while I kept believing endless broken promises. And, yes ... problems are not received warmly.
But ... your reference to the resistance to the topic of idolatry on this thread has no merit.
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Originally Posted by Ohio: The tragedy of the LC's for decades was to look to Anaheim for the way of blessing and for the reasons for which there was no blessing. This has robbed the Lord of His rightful place as the Head of the church and the Son of Man walking in her midst. Anaheim became a rival to God's own Son. The "ministry" became a rival to His word. Hence, very little blessing exists in the LC's, to the point that some would even say there is a kind of curse upon them.
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Originally Posted by Thankful Jane
How is this different than what I said? The O.T. cursings and blessings were directly tied to God’s children having other gods. The ministry and leadership hierarchy among us took the place of God’s word and His direct headship over each of us; hence, it was another god.
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This was the exact same situation the Lord Jesus faced in His earthly ministry. The Pharisees made void the word of God. They robbed God of His rightful place. But the begging question is this -- why didn't the Lord call this idolatry. He had ample opportunity. He was in Jerusalem rebuking them for a whole week. His "woe to you"s were fairly extensive. Why did the Lord not tell the Pharisees that they had "another god?" He called them vipers and cemeteries. Obviously he was not pulling any punches. Could He simply have forgotten what he had written in times past about idolatry?
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Some may claim now that they never submitted. I ask, then, where were their voices of objection in the past? Silence is consent. Silence is the equivalent of bowing and it produces culpability. If we saw the problem and were silent, we had part in closing the door on blessing and opening the door to cursing. We share responsibility for our being run over by every kind of evil. I believe that even now, many people ex-LSM folks still value the teachings of the ministry more than the pure Word of God. They treasure the ministry and still have it hidden under their tents. Thankful Jane
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Whoa! Slow down here. "
Silence is consent. Silence is the equivalent of bowing?" Consent to what? Bowing down to who?
In conclusion, I can not say it any better than ol' brother Toledo: "I both respect and appreciate your beliefs. I do not agree with you, but it is obvious that you have spent much time before the Lord in prayer, and much time searching through the bible. I do not agree with your interpretation of the scriptures -- you add a lot to the plain word of the bible. However, I respect your right to do so. Our oneness is based upon the Spirit and the divine life that we share, not upon our doctrinal agreement."