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Originally Posted by Thankful Jane
Again, the point is how does God see our situation? Have we suffered defeat by the enemy or not? Loss of marriages; our second generation turning away from God and living sinful, immoral lives; untimely deaths, lawsuits against Christian brothers; brother hating brother; boasting in riches; etc. When all is said and done, it really doesn’t matter what we say, but what God says.
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Your description sounds exactly like Laodicea in Rev 3. I would say it is a "perfect fit." The arrogant pride, the exclusivism and elitism all bear the rotten fruits that you enumerated. And ... what does God say to them? He did not mention idolatry. He did rebuke them. He admonished them to buy from Him. And He waited outside the door until some invited Him in.
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Originally Posted by Thankful Jane
If I or others say that the reason for such loss of blessing is our serving other gods, do you really consider such a statement to be the same as the crimes of holocaust or inquisitions? Don’t you think that is a bit of exaggeration? Isn’t there at least a possibility that God might consider our behavior (bowing to others voices and commands) to be idolatrous?
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I mentioned
holocaust because that was how the story in Joshua ended. You likened the LC situation to that story in Joshua 7. If we are all idolators like that one in the story, shouldn't all our fate be the same? It's not me who is exaggerating here. How far are you pushing the analogy? He was burned alive. Should we all suffer the same judgment?
If I
"listen" to the "
voices and commands" of others who are elders and ministers,
then have I become an idolator? I don't think so. Since when is to "
listen to" the same as to
"bow down to?" What scripture supports that? I have protested every such assertion on this thread. Don't you think if there was,
"at least a possibility that God might consider our behavior (bowing to others voices and commands) to be idolatrous,"
He would tell us in plain words?