[Dave]

Originally Posted by awareness

Okay I'm blind. I don't see Nelson Mandela in Rev. 4.

But back to Faith through experiential knowledge of God.

If we have experiential knowledge of God why do we need faith?

You can't have "experiential" knowledge of God without faith because even if you have an experience which you attribute to God you need to have faith that it was an experience of God. Otherwise it would be an experience of something else. Even though Paul was struck down and blinded by Jesus in the end when Ananias came to him Paul had to have faith that that experience was of God. Maybe he was struck by lightening but it became an experience of God because he believed it was of God.