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Originally Posted by Ohio
Looking back over time, I guess there is a valid reason that the GLA was always considered "not in the flow" and that we had a "different taste." We were always looked at with suspicion since the earliest days.
Perhaps TC said it best when he testified, "I always viewed WL as a man, while the BB's viewed WL as god."
Possibly the growing chasm between LSM and the many other CB's was not merely a "difference of opinion" repackaged for sale as "teaching differently," no! Maybe idolatry was in the undiscussed root of those disagreements. After all, we did get quarantined over what many thought was nonsense.
I would also add that Ron Kangas doesn't necessarily speak for all the current members of the LC's. Let's differentiate between BB speakers and LC members. I know many LC folks who never make it to the feasts, and rarely hear a LSM message. They are there for various reasons, but no one would say they have idolized a man. The program just is not as homogenized as sometimes it is portrayed here. It would serve our discussion well if we substituted the BB'S for the LC's. If the BB's promote some form of idolatry, let's identify that, rather than including lots of people we may know nothing about.
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Dear Ohio,
I agree that blame primarily rests with the BB type leaders, but I don't think the rest of us can claim innocence because of this. The story of Ai in Joshua 7 comes to mind. When there was sin in the camp, all Israel suffered, and God seemed to consider that all the children of Israel were guilty of the sin (Josh 7:11). All Israel had to submit to examination until the source of the sin was nailed down. It appears that all witnessed the discovery and the judgment. That's more of the sense I have about all of this. The way God alerted them that there was a problem in the first place was by letting Israel be defeated before their enemies. I think we've had major clues of such defeat for many for years, but those who should have done as Joshua did and rent their clothes, hit the dust, and then tracked down the problem failed to do so:
Jos 7:11
Israel hath sinned, and they have also transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put it even among their own stuff. [italics added by me]
There was only one who had brought an accursed thing into the camp, but God said "they," referring to Israel, had sinned. I offer this gently as food for thought. No hammer in hand.
I'm gone for the day.
TJ