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Originally Posted by aron
Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Notice that it says "one God and Father of all", it doesn't say "one God and Lord of all". It uses the appelation "God" next to the Father, not next to the Lord, or the faith, or the baptism. It doesn't say "one God and Spirit". The only conjunctive phrase of "God and..." is with the Father. Nowhere else. There is one God and Father of all. One God.
However, for all practical purposes, the Lord Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father. When you see the Lord Jesus you see the Father. That's what Jesus said to Thomas, who said, "Show us the Father." When the Lord speaks it is the Father speaking. The Lord said, "What I do, is what I see the Father doing." So the Lord's doing is the Father's doing. The Lord said, "I came to do the Father's will." So the Father's will is clearly manifested in the Son. All of this can be said without confusing the two. The Son can do all that the Father has willed for us, without being the Father God. Jesus is God, operationally, functionally, and yes IS God to us, but Jesus and the Father are not to be confused.
And likewise the Spirit brings us the Son. The Spirit of the Son presents us with the Son, and to the Son. The Spirit indeed speaks what the LOGOS is speaking to the churches. But if we try to worship this speaking Spirit, it says, "Don't do that! I am your fellow servant! Worship God." So we still are monotheistic. There is one God and Father of all. But operationally the Son is God to us. And likewise the spirit is indeed the conveying Spirit of Jesus Christ. This Spirit conveys, leads us into all the reality. Jesus said, "I go to prepare a place for you"; this prepared place is reachable by our hearing, receiving, and obeying the sent Spirit.
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So we shouldn't confuse the Son and the Father, huh? Because of the one scripture verse you've quoted (and misapplied) from Ephesians? "One God and Father", therefore, Jesus is not God. He shouldn't be confused with God, huh? What about the scripture that you have so conveniently ignored that says "and the Word was God" in the gospel of John? So we shouldn't confuse the Word with God, huh?
Man, you need to read your Bible! You're just simply jumping and skipping around all over Scripture, WRENCHING and TWISTING verses to suit your own very lop-sided understanding of the whole revelation of God. I just wonder how you could interpret Matthew 22: 41-45 the way you did in one of your earlier posts with such a straight face? Nobody but the Pharisees (and now you) have ever interpreted that psalm in that way! Like them, you have missed the Lord's point entirely!
Brother, wake up!
p.s. and FYI, it was Philip (and NOT Thomas) who asked Jesus to "show us the Father"...and you think you've got the edge over Witness Lee?!...maybe you should've stayed a little bit longer in the LC's and maybe LEARNED SOMETHING..like how to read your Bible!!!