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Originally Posted by aron
But consider this from John's perspective: there is clearly differentiation. There is the One who was and is and who's coming, who is on the throne. There are seven spirits in front of the throne. There is the LOGOS at the right hand of God. How can you say that the Father is the Son, who is the Spirit, sevenfold or otherwise? What do you see in this scene that supports such notions? Only your doctrine, is what, not the imagery of the scene itself. On the contrary, John's vision in Revelation 1 doesn't support Lee's doctrine; rather Lee's doctrine is imposed on John's vision, and doesn't fit very well.
Secondly, irrespective of details, we see One on the throne, we see the LOGOS beside the throne, we see seven spirits before the throne, and we see 24 elders around the throne. Look at the placement, the clearly differentiated spatial arrangement here: on the throne, beside the throne, in front of the throne, and around the throne. Can't we see the difference? There is order here, and there's differentiation. It is not some bland, homogenized mass of undifferentiated "God".
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Dude, what about the four living creatures? where do htey fit in your picture of hierarcy? are they equal with the lamb because they are in 'the midst' of the throne, just like He is (NOT 'beside the throne'). You ask what do I see in thise scene that suppports such notions of the Son being the Spirit....hmmm....well, lets see now....hmm..what about the 'seven eyes of the lamb being the seven spirits of God'???...Gotcha!..
what are you smokin', dude?