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Originally Posted by aron

You know, if the dragon's tail pulled one third of the stars out of the sky that is pretty big, conceptually. We might want to incorporate that into our narrative. Give it a little more oomph.

The son who is "dead, then alive again" in Luke 15 presupposes a life before being dead; a life before the fall. Or so I think. Anyone else?

Or put it another way: why do the angels in heaven rejoice so, when a sinner confesses? And, why did Jesus lay his life down for His friends? Maybe because they were His friends, and He loved them, and came down to Earth to find them and rescue them. You know, bring them back to the Father's house. He said, "Where I am going you know the way. You know the way home". Maybe we do, after all. Maybe we do.

The first two chapters of the epistle to the Hebrews do not appear to support this new hypothesis of yours, bro aron. On the contrary, they seem to warn -quite robustly- against it!!

Perhaps, you might like to read those chapters again just a little bit more closely. You might also like to 'review' Heb 1:7 which you have quoted on numerous occasions. When taken in its proper context, you may find that far from lending credence to your earlier views, the verse, in fact, does quite the opposite!