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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Please allow me to weigh in on the conversation, aron. So, let me get this straight: the seven spirits of God burning before the throne are actually seven created angels? Where have you got this idea from, brother?
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Because the Holy Spirit is one, and the angels are plural. So if you have one, singular Spirit, like The Angel of the Lord in the OT, or the Great Angel in Revelation 10, that is the Holy Spirit. But if you have multiple spirits, then you have the angels. There is singular, and there is plural. The Holy Spirit is singular, not plural.
The seven angels who stand before the Lord are referenced in Revelations 8:2. So where are they in the throne scene in Revelations chapter 1? My argument is that they are the seven spirits burning before the throne.
The difficulty of the Trinity is that you have singularity, and plurality, or multiplicity. So you are simultaneously looking at one, and many. Additionally, you are looking at the Creator, God, Jehovah, on the throne, and you simultaneously are looking at a teeming, bustling creation around Him. All of whom are actually extensions of God. So where do we delineate? The Nicene Creed has 3 Creator aspects, or persons. The Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. My argument is that the Creator is the Father. The Son is the Firstborn of all creation. The Holy Spirit is the seven first created angels. This was a notion in circulation in the first centuries CE, by writers who had access to the oral traditions as well as the written, public documents (gospels and epistles). So the Church Father commentaries said that the seven spirits were the Protoctoi, the first-created angels. See Clement of Alexandria's commentaries, for example. So this idea isn't really mine. I just raise it because it makes more sense to me than the vague and nebulous "Holy Spirit is 1/3 of the Godhead" idea.