[Nell]

Originally Posted by Shawn

Sorry for the 800 pound gorilla remark, it was a little too colorful and off base, I will try to avoid uneeded hyperbole in the future.

I would say that the LC was not devoid of healthy teachings, I have heard quotes that 80 percent of the teachings of WL were founded in the brethern movement. Therefore, on the basics Christ was recognized as the preeminient One. This was clear in my understanding of the teachings of Witness Lee.

Do I need to write in 18 font to make the point that WL was not the minister of the age and is not perfect, but there was the element of experiencing Christ that is in his ministry and as such, can lay the ground work for a healthy practice of the church.
18 Font again, Many used his teachings and eventually brought him into an unhealthy exclusive understanding and practice of the church.

Do you remember he wrothe the book "Experiencing Christ?" he didn't write "Eexperiencing the Church" and if you look at that book there are ample references to knowing the Lord Jesus, that can be used in any Sunday School class to have a better understanding of how to know and live Jesus.

Today, there are many problems, that had their start early on in his ministry, but to ignore some of the teachings that were helpful will only cause the adjusting to go on to counter statements like "all who have attended are decieved, or the ministry was influensed by Satan. Sorry, I don't have the direct references and I have to run, please correct if I'm wrong.

Grace to you!

Shawn

Shawn,

Can out of the same mouth come blessing and cursing?
With the tongue (can) we Bless God and curse men?
Does a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
Can the fig tree bear olive berries?

Witness Lee's ministry is the epitome of blessing and cursing; bitter and sweet, as you have clearly noted above. Can such a thing be? How do you justify your position?


16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

No one denies the dark side of Witness Lee's ministry, so how can darkness and light coexist? You're going to need more than a bigger font ....

Nell and James (Ch. 3)