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Originally Posted by countmeworthy
I like to ask the Holy Spirit for understanding, for revelation and for Wisdom. He likes that too. And He doesn't like to be boxed in.
So.. for whatever it's worth...... I am going to blow your mind with what HE REVEALED to me...and back it with scriptures for those who STILL believe the Bible we have is GOD's WRITTEN WORD that is REVEALED to us ONLY by HIS SPIRIT.
And for your information DOH-DOH BIRD HAROLD, GOD DID WRITE THE BOOK OF REVELATION.
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Dearest Sister,
Of the four methods of interpreting the book of Revelation -- Futurist, Historicist, Preterist, and Idealist -- you being a self professed Rapture-centric Retard, are clearly having a absolute hoot of a time as a idealist futurist sort. while I, a Doh-Doh Bird, so claimed, clearly am a dud of the preterist sort.
And I don't know if you buy into Witness Lee's historical perspective, that the 7 churches represent the historical development of the church down thru the ages, if so you are also of a historical sort. That would mean you have three ways, against my one way.
As a note, the author of Revelation, a guy that calls himself John, was a preterist and futureist, cuz he was relating his writing to his times -- Rome & Nero -- and expecting God to intervene "
soon," not, however, 2000 yrs later. So this guy John was wrong.
As tempted as I am to break your post down and respond part for part, I feel only to go into the verse I presented, Rev. 6:13.
You make a claim that, the "stars are the old testament saints OF THE 12 TRIBES of Israel."
However, when I search the whole Bible for the Greek word ἀστήρ (astēr) in every case but one it means the literal stars up in the sky at night, not old testament saints, as you claim.
And this guy John saying that stars fall to earth reveals that his book is not inspired by God. As God knows, and knew, as well as we today, that if even one star fell to earth, the earth, sun, and whole solar system, would be completely obliterated. And that would mean the end of John's make believe drama.
That means the book of Revelation is a forgery -- not from God -- using John's name, and borrowing imagery from OT prophets, to explain what was going on back in the author's day.
That's why we should look at the book of Revelation as a product of the imagination of a faker.