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Originally Posted by awareness

Maybe you've got a point:

Rev_6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

I like to ask the Holy Spirit for understanding, for revelation and for Wisdom. He likes that too. And He doesn't like to be boxed in.

So.. for whatever it's worth...... I am going to blow your mind with what HE REVEALED to me...and back it with scriptures for those who STILL believe the Bible we have is GOD's WRITTEN WORD that is REVEALED to us ONLY by HIS SPIRIT.

And for your information DOH-DOH BIRD HAROLD, GOD DID WRITE THE BOOK OF REVELATION.

That is another topic for another time. I have read it over a dozen times and next to Hebrews, it is one of my favorite books. AND btw, for those who read it, we get a BLESSING. Rev 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Gotta have ears to hear what the SPIRIT SAYS.

As to Rev 6:13, there are several key phrases:
a) And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth

b) as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs,

c) she is shaken of a MIGHTY WIND.

A: Soon Joseph had another dream, and again he told his brothers about it. “Listen, I have had another dream,” he said. “The sun, moon, and eleven stars bowed low before me!” GEN 37:9


B: THE FIG TREE IS ISRAEL. The untimely figs being cast down from heaven are the OT saints.

C: The MIGHTY WIND is the HOLY SPIRIT
suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing MIGHTY WIND, and HE (it) filled all the house where they were sitting. (Acts 2:2) Holy spirit is not an IT. HE IS GOD THE SPIRIT.

Hope you are following the bouncing ball.

Those stars are the old testament saints OF THE 12 TRIBES of Israel returning to the earth to put on their Glorified bodies. In fact I believe they are the 144k Jews SEALED WITH THE SEAL OF GOD spoken of in Revelation 7.

The rapture has already taken place because in vs 9 of Rev 7

we read:
After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands

So the 144k figs come down from heaven and are sealed with The SEAL of GOD on their foreheads (vs 3) between vs 4-8, the tribes are listed and following the list, the great multitude which no man could number out of EVERY NATION are stading before the Throne and the Lamb Glorifying Him. These are those that came out of the rapture..


The church is not mentioned after Rev 4. Between Rev 5-19 the LORD is focuses on Israel. Then in Rev 19 the Lord JESUS returns WITH THE BRIDAL ARMY to fight for Israel against the nations that have come against her. And now Israel will see Yahshua truly has always been Messiah they were waiting for.

It is pretty clear to me that after the rapture, the 144k OT saints from the 12 tribes of ISRAEL are sent down from heaven by the POWER MIGHTY Holy Spirit of God.

hee haw !

Carol