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Originally Posted by awareness
But what was missed, or untold by Lee, is that they both have an angry wrathful God. In fact, step back and look at the OT God, and the God in Revelation, and it's like the death of Jesus on the cross didn't count. God was angry and wrathful before the cross and angry and wrathful afterwards; like God said or thought, "I gave my son as a sacrifice for the sin of the world, to forgive them," but ... but, "oh hell, forget the cross, I'm just going back to being angry and wrathful."
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As I was pondering aron's take on the Holy Spirit and why Jesus said he could not go up unless the Holy Spirit came down, I got a revelation of what the reason behind this principle could very well be.
*Just what if* it was because Father God was so holy and by default wrathful against sin that he requires someone to intercede in front of him for mankind 24/7 (and it had to be either the Holy Spirit or the Son of God), otherwise he would immediately leave his throne and pour out his wrath on the earth? Perhaps this type of intercession did not happen during OT times, which would explain the regular outpourings of wrath such as Noah's flood. And it was Moses who was required to intercede before God out of his own free will multiple times, or else the children of Israel would have been long wiped out.
And when Jesus comes back, he's leaving his place in heaven for the first time after his ascension where he was interceding for us as our heavenly High Priest to take his rightful rule over the world as King. This also just *happens* to coincide with God pouring out his wrath on the earth for the first time since hundreds of years before Jesus even.
The question is, was the Holy Spirit interceding for us while Jesus was on earth and even perhaps before then? There are verses that indicate that intercession is one of the Holy Spirit's roles.
Romans 8:26
In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.
Isaiah 26:20
Come, my people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until the fury has passed by.