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Old 07-12-2008, 09:29 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by finallyprettyokay View Post
YPO said: Please, someone, help me understand how the Lord's words about millstones around the neck and normal human affection could BOTH be thrown under the LC bus?


YPO, no heat here.

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And Francis (bless his heart) said 'just don't let him get your heart. Children are wrappers!' And I, being the good little soldier, said 'oh, no, he won't'. And I thought (in the honest part of me) -- this boy had my heart before he was born. Actually, before he was conceived he had my heart. Completely.

The Bible talks about in the last days people not having natural affections. There you go. Enough said. I don't want to call that a doctrine of demons --- guess I will leave that to the Bible to say.

Our children are our biggest gifts, our biggest lessons, our biggest learning tools and our joy. Not one thing in my life is more important to me than my sons. Big, grownup, 6'3" sons. Cool Cats

WOW.
Never heard of the "wrapper" doctrine before.

Looks like that one might have started in the Genesis Life-Study too.
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Obeying God’s Calling in a Dragging Way
This time Abraham obeyed God’s calling, but he did not
do so in a clean-cut way. He was still dragging along. We
know this because he did not only take his wife Sarai with
him but also his nephew Lot (12:4). Lot was a member of his
father’s family. Did not Abraham hear when God told him to
get out of his father’s house? Why then did he bring with
him a member of his father’s house? I believe that I can tell
you the reason. At that time Abraham was quite old. He was
seventy-five years of age. Although he was seventy-five years
old, he still did not have a son of his own. For such a long
journey he surely needed a young man to help him. That was
his excuse. Abraham might have said, ‘‘God called me, but
should I leave my nephew? Should I not love him?’’ Humanly
speaking, everyone would say that Abraham was right in
bringing Lot.
What is the meaning of the name Lot? It means a veil, a
wrapping. Your dear relatives, whom you love so much and
whom you would take with you in answering God’s calling,
are always veils to you. Look at your situation. Many of us
have answered God’s calling in a way of taking a veil along
with us.
Lot did not help Abraham at all. Rather, he caused
trouble. When we come to Genesis 13, we shall see that Lot
caused a great deal of trouble to Abraham and that eventually
he had to leave Abraham. If you examine your own situation
you will see that probably it was exactly the same as
Abraham’s.
In the gospel preaching today people are mostly told that
if they believe in the Lord Jesus, they will be saved from hell
and will go to heaven one day. This is true, but it is shallow.
From God’s point of view, to be saved is to be called. God is
not concerned about hell but about your country, your kindred,
and your father’s house. God is concerned about your
environment, surroundings, and background. To be saved
means to be called out of your background, to be called out
of your present surroundings, environment, and situation. To
be saved is not merely a matter of having your sins forgiven,
of being rescued from hell, and of being qualified to go to
heaven. To be saved means to be called out of your background
and environment. LS Genesis 40
Another example of loose speaking and lack of balance causing huge problems!

No doubt our dedication to our families can potentially become big problems with our going on with the Lord.
Anything can!
But to have such a word spoken as what was repeated/twisted to you is a shame to both divinity and humanity!
Even the evil ones love their own children and know to give them good things, Francis!

The saddest thing is that, pretty clearly now, the biggest veil of all was named Phillip...
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