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Originally Posted by Nell
Hi Dave,
Actually, my question was "If God wanted to warn you about something, anything, how would He do it?"  I certainly wouldn't rule out comets, earthquakes, etc., (I did say 'anything') but I had something less catastrophic in mind.
For example, years ago one of my good friends talked to me about a problem she was having. She couldn't decide whether or not it was OK to sleep with her boyfriend. I told her "Some questions you don't have to ask. What does the Bible say?" I didn't need to, or have to, tell her what to do. The Bible speaks for itself. So, God's Word delivered a message to my friend. Perhaps a warning.
So, in that context, God speaks to us through His Word with many messages, which include encouragement, comfort, rebuke, and warnings, to name a few.
When I was in the LC had the experience of hearing a message from someone other than WL, et al, and rejecting it out of hand because it wasn't from the "oracle". It was a good message, but I was taught only to listen to the big "O". Like a dope, I did it.
There are unlikely sources that the Lord may send to speak a message of warning to us. One of my all-time favorites is Baalam's ass. Numbers 22:21-39 tells the story. On this thread, JCahn's rep is worse than that of Baalam's ass. However, if God can use BA to send a messenge, He can also use JCahn. Forget JCahn, but pay attention to the message. File it away. Pray for wisdom and guidance. I'm sure you're doing that anyway.
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Nell
Good question! Thanks for your clarification. In any case, you were not alone. Many of us were mesmerized by the Oracle and the conferences in Anaheim were a good time to directly experience divine revelation, so to speak.
It appears that maybe you are contrasting the “warning” that is given by Cahn as to what I would expect a warning to be if I don’t accept Cahn’s warning. Of course, Cahn hedges his bet with his warning (in regards to the Shemitah) indicating that there is no guarantee that anything will happen but be on the alert every seventh year. Of course, if you look on the “official” Cahn website they are listing things such as ISIS, ebola, drop in the stock market etc so they are listing major issues of global concern so my comet warning is not far off the mark.
In any case, you have narrowed it down to the example of Balaam’s ass and, no, I haven’t envisioned an angel standing in the road to warn me although that would be a cool experience. There have been things in my life which have been fortuitous so maybe there was some intervention of some sort there. Of course, how the Bible speaks to you compared to me may be different, probably very different but it does speak in various ways to everyone. I don’t think I look for nor have I experienced direct exposition of the Word such as you recall.
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Originally Posted by Nell
How do you know JCahn is in it for the money? How does Awareness know? (Really. How "aware" is Awareness?) On what do you base your opinion? Have you researched it? I have. I haven't found anything stating what he does with the proceeds of his book sales yet. Before forming an opinion, and before accusing a brother, there are ways to find out the facts of the matter.
Nell
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When I went on Cahn’s church’s website they have about 2000 DVDs/CDs of Cahn’s messages for sale at $15/$8 a piece (discounted in bulk). Many churches provide messages of sermons online for free so it just appears that everything he is associated with is about money. We were fortunate to obtain his Inaugural Breakfast message for free on youtube because everything else costs money. There is such a thing as a false prophet---consider that Jesus went into the temple and tried to clean it:
John 2:13 (NIV) When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"
No, I don't know what he is using the money for other than promoting his ideas. If you can find something noble then let me know and maybe I'll change my viewpoint.