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Old 10-18-2014, 12:56 PM   #456
Nell
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Default Re: A Wake Up Call - God is Speaking to Us

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Originally Posted by Dave View Post
We were all mesmerized by WL and the writings of WN. I know that for a number of years I met almost every morning and evening pray reading, calling "Oh Lord Jesus", studying the Life Studies of WL of various books of the Bible, listening to audio tapes of WL etc. I also marched in the streets of different cities wearing shirts with "Jesus Is Lord" etc. printed on them. I attended several conferences on books of the Bible in Anaheim with WL. I met with WL, had dinner with him etc. One time I stood on the table in a cafeteria of a University I was attending and preached the gospel to other students during lunch hour. I was a true believer and I was doing everything I could to further the "kingdom" of God with WL at the helm leading us forth, unfortunately, as we discovered too late, into the wilderness. Prior to WL I was studying for the Ministry. During this entire time, like many of you, I sought the riches of Christ so it is not like I gave up my faith while I was listening to WL but it is just that leaders can take us astray such as those Paul wrote about in various epistles e.g. 1 Corinthians... even though at the same time I was doing everything a Christian should do--praying, reading my Bible, meeting with other believers, preaching the gospel etc.
Dave,

I did all that too. I was just as deceived as you were, maybe more. Lee said "follow ME" and like a dope, I did it.

Here's your key phrase "I was doing everything I could to further the "kingdom" of God with WL at the helm...". We were following the wrong person. We shouldn't have followed Lee and we shouldn't "follow Cahn". Is anyone suggesting that we follow Cahn? No. Is CAHN suggesting this? No.

Who should we follow? Jesus. Period. In fact, that's Cahn's message. Get right with Jesus. So, if even if you wanted to follow Cahn you'd have to follow God.


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Originally Posted by Dave View Post
The question is for those who believe in what Cahn is saying---how real is to you? Is it just an argument/discussion or is it something you are going to live your life for? On the streets, at the universities, meetings with others etc. Are you a "true" believer? It seems like you might want to get out into the streets and start shouting "Repent America!"...what is the outcome of your agreement with Cahn?
I'm a true believer in Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. Cahn is not real to me. God is real to me. I sure hope He doesn't want me to go out and start shouting "repent America". I really hope He doesn't

What do you know of "my agreement with Cahn?" I keep saying it: forget Cahn. Is Cahn's message consistent with the Bible? If so, believe the Bible. Was Lee consistent with the Bible? Sometimes. Men are not "right" or "wrong" of themselves. Lee was ONLY "right" when he lined up with the Bible. Did that make Lee "right"? No. It was the Bible that was right. Lee just agreed with the Bible, or he didn't.

Lee is not authoritative. Cahn is not authoritative. You are not authoritative. I am not authoritative. OBW is not authoritative. The Bible is authoritative. Period. All of it. (...awareness...even the Revelation).

Here's a question for you, Dave. If God wanted to warn you about something, anything, how would He do it?

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