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Originally Posted by UntoHim
To be sure, some of his speech that morning was filled with all sorts of "raw, raw, let's go get em" kind of hype....but I didn't hear any "let's go hang all the homosexuals" or "let's make America a Christian theocracy". And to be sure, let's give our sister Nell the benefit of the doubt that she is not a proponent of any such thing(s). Let's not impugn things to her that she has not even faintly proposed.
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The problem is that some have already connected the dots between Cahn and at least one major "take back the country" Christian theocracy group. I really don't think that Nell has that kind of thing in mind. But the evidence of the whole line of reasoning is available to observe. And you don't have to say it in any particular speech or book. It is part of the platform. And the way that the rhetoric is offered, even when the "take back the country" words are omitted, it can only be meaningful in that kind of environment.
So to say that she is pushing more than she wants to push would not be an error. Some may agree with that push. But to deny that it is happening is to ignore the whole of the teachings that you support.
Sort of like those who suggest that we can still read Nee and Lee and get a lot out of them. Just beware of the bad parts.
And I will assert here (because this is not private) that nothing has been provided that makes Cahn's teachings acceptable even if you exclude the Christian Nation rhetoric that is in it. (And you don't have to say "Christian nation" to be preaching it.) The whole premise that the specific warnings in the OT of which Cahn speaks are intended to be applicable to the NT in any way has never been established. Just claimed to be true. Since it would appear that we are talking about teachings that (so far) cannot be established as made in the Bible, then we have to assume that the perpetrator of them is some kind of false prophet. And those that follow him are blinded to his falsehoods.
They ignore every possible avenue of discussion. Just suggest that we need to talk to Jesus during our quiet time about it. Any time I do, I get the real sense that it is a waste of perfectly good time to converse with God. He is not interested. He does not enlighten anything that would make it even seem possibly true. Instead I am pointed back to the kind of Christian life that does not lean on earthly kingdoms for my blessings. That relies on me being loving to my heathen neighbor, the gay guy I work with, the unmarried woman (and mother of 2) living with her latest boyfriend.
And while I am one of the people who thinks that the places for "tough love" are limited, being blunt when you see what you believe to be serious error, even damaging error, is not a breach of the call to love. Within the body of Christ, love includes admonishing one another.