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Old 10-14-2014, 04:42 AM   #399
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Default Re: A Wake Up Call - God is Speaking to Us

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Originally Posted by Nell View Post
Nothing I've seen to date on this topic is as ugly as this.
Except the kind of position that would treat those who do not agree with unscriptural positions as the modern equivalent of the ones who did not "turn back to God" and caused the downfall of Israel and Judah.

This whole premise is very ugly. And pushing it out here and claiming to defend it without providing any actual support other than Cahn's claim that it is true is really ugly.

Have you not seen the kind of ugly that the people who march against homosexuality exhibit? Or against abortion? I know, Cahn says this is all about prayer. But the prayers of those who are already righteous and who are always praying anyway is not changing the nation already. This is a backdoor to stir up Christians to more public action to create laws against sinners and in the favor of Christians and Christianity. And it is a damage to the preaching of the gospel because it makes us entirely uncharitable.

My post may have been slightly ugly. But it was nothing like the ugly I've seen in the public square from those who support the Christian Nation rhetoric.

And Cahn's speech was not any better. Just reserved.

You are supporting the Christian equivalent of sharia law. That is an ugly thing no matter what religion is running it. It will make us into the people who judge sinners before the time that God appoints. It makes any kind of "altar call" a mockery, especially if we sing "Just as I Am" while waiting for "just one more hand."

You are pushing ugly. Cahn's speech was ugly and sickening. And I'm sure his book is full of rhetorical tricks and emotional appeals to get as many as possible to follow falsehoods.

And you like it and dislike my push-back. In my book, that puts you on the side of, well, . . . .
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