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Originally Posted by Nell
I just read the verse. Everybody gets everything.
No. Sorry. Just a question. I must have misunderstood your point.
It tells me that God is better at judging than we are. He knows what he's doing. We don't know what we're doing, much less what he's doing.
Amen, Bro.
Does that mean you don't know about Cahn either? 
Nell |
Of course. The only thing I have consumed of Cahn is the prayer breakfast, the articles I have read online, and what you and others have quoted on this thread. Based on my reading of political philosophy and American history his belief that America began as a Christian nation is factually incorrect. That's the factual part of his message. Since that is wrong why should I trust his predictions?
Cahn's vision fits into the Christian Dominionist mode that l don't subscribe to. I'm making a judgment about his claims based on how they appear to me in view of my lifetime of study. I don't claim to know enough about ultimate reality to be certain and I doubt that he does either.
The American form of government is a product of human reason that operates based on limited human knowledge. It is a based on political philosophy that I consider sound not on religion. I trust that more than I do people who make exalted claims of a divine vision.
I followed a guy who claimed to be an apostle for 13 years. I don't intend to abandon critical thinking again to follow a guy who claims to be a prophet. I've already explained why his claims cannot be falsified. How do you calibrate them?
Hey maybe Cahn's been proven right already. Shemitah no sooner got started when God took his protecting hand off the USA and hit us with the Ebola virus under a blood red moon! And in Texas, that bastion of Right wing fundamentalism of all places! Who can figure God out? May he be merciful.
It isn't clear to me what it is about Cahn's message that appeals to you. Maybe he's preaching a message that you want to believe. You see things that are wrong with America and you want to see it judged.
Oh, and thanks for the amen, by the way. Amen to you too.