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Originally Posted by UntoHim
Come on Harold. Stoning? Stop flaming other forum members. Dancing (or any other member for that matter) has insinuated no such thing. In fact no forum member has really made any mention of the political side of what Cahn spoke about in his address. IT IS YOU (and maybe some others) who have consistently twisted the whole thing so you can present and attack a straw man, and then make outrageous and ugly posts like this one. Discuss what was presented by Thankful Jane in the opening post, discuss what Nell has brought fourth, but please stop bringing up things and emphasizing views that have zero to do with what these other posters have brought forth.
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You should be a little less volatile yourself. I also think that Awareness is prone to gross exaggeration, but that is quite different from flaming.
If we truly return to an OT-based rule of moral law, then technically stoning would be back on the books. I'm quite aware that no one — not even Cahn — is suggesting that. But despite the logical fallacy of the slippery slope argument, it is not irrational to consider the slippery slope.
Where is the flaming in that?
The problem is that in the land of the United Theocracy of America, it is not clear what is fact and what is fiction. Many of us argue that the very existence of that place is a fiction. But those who push it hint at outcomes that cannot be obtained by simply praying. There is something beyond simply prayer that is required. Like outlawing homosexuality and jailing those who perform and receive abortions. Things that cannot happen so simply.
If this is about prayer, then jettison the comparisons to OT Israel. Dump the "Christian Nation" rhetoric. Those are inconsistent with the Christian life that Christ directed. The interaction of the Christian with the government is fairly well set-out in the NT. And there is no sound basis for pushing the OT covenant with Israel into the NT period for application to other countries.
It really is time to shut this whole thing down. It can only get uglier.
Unless you want to dictate that we just have to let it be. And despite your personal ownership of the forum, it needs more than "because you say so" on something like this. There needs to be a sound reason. And not offending sisters is a pretty poor reason to allow nonsense on the forum. The whole premise of Cahn is not much better than awareness' worry about stonings. Both are a bit "out there." This is not the forum of discussion about the fantastical theology of anyone outside of the LRC. And more specifically Nee, Lee, and their successors.