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Originally Posted by Nell
If you see my last response to you as an attack, that wasn't my intention. I believe my questions to be fair. Everyone has a "spin" on the Bible but you have a problem with Cahn's "spin". That was my point.
Let's suppose Cahn is totally wrong on every point. What's the worst case scenario? His message is repentance. Get clean. Get right with God. Wake up. That's where I am now. Look at each piece of the puzzle for the worst case scenario...what if Cahn is wrong on America? What's the worst case scenario? I've spent a few dollars on doing some reading. I've spent some time reading the Bible looking for the holes. I've discussed it with a few Christians. I'm constantly looking for holes.
But what if Cahn is right? Worst case? We'll know in about a year.
The message of the some of the gentlemen on this forum seems to be that Cahn is wrong and you all are right. Period. You all are delievering your message with authority...authority that none of us have. Some include ridicule, mockery and derision. In fact, none of us know. Not Cahn and not any of us. Only God knows and it would be unwise to speak for him. I think Cahn may be on to something but time will tell.
I'm just praying first of all, that i won't be deceived. Then, I pray that none of us will be deceived. I'm praying tht this isn't about Cahn. It's about me and my walk with the Lord. It's about the verse "When you see these things begin to take place, look up, for your redemption draws near." (Matt. 24:33)
Nell
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Thanks for that sober and honest word, Nell. I sense love as your motive, for both God and us.
I've also experienced "like apprehension" with some of the men on this post. God's message of repentance is Cahn's motive. Nothing to fear. Nothing to malign or scoff. Beware that you don't fit the description given by Jude:
"Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit."
Rather, we SHOULD be doing this:
"But ye, beloved,
building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. And of some have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen." - Jde 1:1-25 KJV