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Originally Posted by OBW
1. On what basis can any of the founders of America establish a country that commands the blessings of God.
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Y'all are gonna laugh. I offer this only to point out that there are alternate possibilities to how America was founded, or what it was founded upon.
First of all, why is God judging America today, when it turned away from being true Christian way more back when they were committing genocide and holding slaves. Back when, in fact, we were getting the claimed blessings ... on the backs and lives of others. Wouldn't God have judged us back then, and not blessed us? Truth is, any blessings on America did not come from God. It came by non-Christian greed, and killing of neighbors for their lands ... not loving them.
But back to my original thought.
When America was "discovered" there was already people here who had a government established. It's referred to as the Five Nations of the Iroquois.
It was a democratic republic, with representatives voted on by each tribe. And they had, way before us (wasn't an easy sell back then) women's voting rights. In fact, and this is presented because it would be a nice practice today, but again is a hard sell, if any of the representatives was seen to be enriching themselves by their position, the women threw them out of office immediately. Wouldn't that be a great practice today?
Anyway, Ben Franklin spent a lot of time around their campfires, and learned about their long standing democratic republic. And modeled our government after it.
So America was founded on the faithful of The Great Spirit. Not on Christianity at all.
And Cahn is completely wrong, wrong, wrong.
I won't encumber the forum with my proofs of this. If anyone is interested in my proofs please contact me in PMs.