And, consistent with past experience, the ad hominems begin to flow. I have not, nor would I have ever been a Local Church elder. They wouldn't have me.
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But there was another civilization that was likewise founded on God’s word, dedicated to His will, and consecrated to His purposes, from its very inception – America. Those who came to these shores four centuries ago to found a new civilization did so by dedicating it to God, committing it for His purposes and glory. America was to be a city on a hill, a civilization to which others would look. It was to be a holy commonwealth. And so they modeled it after Israel of the Bible.
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Not an accurate description of the nation of Israel. The nation of Israel was founded by God who established a covenant that put requirements on them to retain God's blessing. It is entirely revisionist to think that Israel created their own blessing by deciding to be really, really good and follow God really closely, so God relented and agreed to it.
Yes, they were committed to God's purpose and glory. But not because they decided to, but because selected them and told them to.
You asked for scripture. The fact is that you and others came here and claimed that this blessing on America was once true because of what some men did a little over 200 years ago. Since there does not seem to be anything in the Bible about random nations making this kind of deal with God, rather than requiring us to disprove your thesis, you need to establish it. And the fact that Washington did anything is not the proof. There needs to be somewhere in scripture whereby some nation other than Israel, by their own volition, could command the blessing of God.
Seems like a grandiose version of the name it and claim it prosperity gospel.
1. On what basis can any of the founders of America establish a country that commands the blessings of God.
2. Without requiring everyone to read someone's book(s) theorizing these things, lay out how scripture provides specific warnings that are generally related to any course of national failure and not specifically to that or Israel.
3. Provide the modern sequence by which we should now be warned of our slippage with respect to God's special blessing. List the modern signs. Tell how each actually replaces the OT version for our current consideration.
4. Since you have read the book, provide a very brief synopsis of how it was that Cahn (or whoever) first got the idea that something like this was happening and then how they went about trying to determine if it was true (of course, that assumes that they actually tell us how they did it).
If you choose to ignore this request, then I can live with that. But if you want to prove to us that you are actually open to consider the truth or falsity of Cahn's claims, then I suggest that you actually go through the evidence as I suggest. It gives us the opportunity to also go through it an be convinced. Or you to go through it and change your mind. As long as you just say "read the book" then you are not much of an ambassador of what appears to be the most important thing since the Bible itself. I'm not going to read the Koran or any other book that seems to contradict the very teachings of the God I follow, even if there is something in it that might be true. If there is really something there, it is going to take more than saying it is true to change my mind. And hopefully the same can be said for others here.
And if you succeed, then you have won the "debate." If you fail, then maybe you learn something. But if you simply refrain, then you have not really engaged in the process.