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Originally Posted by awareness
I'm fond of sharing. Just don't act like you are laying God Himself on me. I'm not buying it...
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I am fond of speculation, even probably wild speculation, at least from the fundamentalist perspective which is my upbringing. But I always try to label it as such. Truth is probably what you live more than what you think, and therefore I can't claim objective truth more than anyone else, in spite of all my attempts at rationality and reason and logic, as I peruse the holy writings.
But like you, my B.S. o-meter is pretty highly tuned after my tour in the Witness Lee Story Time camp. Those, like Lee, who claim to be something in this age, on this side of the Bema of Christ, are rather suspect in my jaundiced eye. And my jaundiced eye could reflect the operation of the Holy Spirit, e.g. in "discerning the spirits", those which are illusory versus those which contain reality. Or maybe it's just hard experience. (Or maybe that's the same thing).
But back to my original point here: I believe that the operative power of the Holy Spirit in us is that we can come to the sacred texts and receive divine speaking. Which is why I eventually realized that Lee erred in the Psalms, teaching us to effectively ignore them as non-indicative of God's revealed Christ. It was merely Lee's logic that told him that, which was colored by his emotional attachment to his ministry and his "God's economy" message, and we bought it as if it were sacred; you know, "the oracle" and all that. We ignored the NT template, we ignored Paul's injunctions, and we blindly followed the word of Lee.
Likewise, now I have permission to look in the gospel and see wording like "the glory of the Son and the glory of the Father and all the holy angels" and wonder how this affects our Trinity discussion? If Lee ignores it I am free to ignore him, and keep looking. And, likewise I am free to look at the Roman Centurion in the gospels saying, "I also have servants under me, and I tell this one, 'go', and...." and ask what is the spiritual analog of that, which the Centurion references? Angels? The power of the Holy Spirit? Who are the anologous servants under Jesus, in the Centurion's view?
And, I am likewise free to see Jesus saying in John 1:51 that you will see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man, and if Witness Lee instead wants to focus on the church, and passes off the vision of angels ascending and descending with merely two words, "much traffic", ignoring implications of the actual imagery presented by Jesus, then I can trust the operative power of the Holy Spirit and focus on the actual words instead of Uncle Witness' Story Hour.
To me, that is the power of the Holy Spirit. This is why I came to the earth. To receive this Holy Spirit by faith in Jesus' name, and then to apprehend (with all the saints), and then to obey, and then to be faithful to abide in this heavenly vision, and not get distracted by someone else's snake oil salesmanship.
Peace.