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Originally Posted by Toledo
Okay, I'm open (or at least as open as I know how). I can answer "yes" to points 1 and 2 with no problem. Points 3 and 4 are more problematic. I don't think it has yet been established that I have been deceived.
You can tell me all about the terrible things WL did or may have done, but how does that apply to me? I never thought he was the Vicar of Christ on Earth. That belongs to the LSM brothers.
For me WL was a bible teacher, and a frankly pretty good one. But my experience in the church life revolved around Christ, and the saints who were with me. What is it that I am supposed to be deceived about...?
I very much appreciate Ms. Penn-Lewis, but I am not sure how to apply this portion of her ministry to my life.
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Toledo,
I don't know whether or not you are deceived. I was answering your question "Where do we go from here?" My suggestion was to go to the Lord and inquire of Him as to what He would say about our spiritual condition. To me, its not about Witness Lee. It's about me. A point JPL made was that we can be deceived and not know it (the definition of deceit I suppose) and our need is enlightenment.
As long as Witness Lee's ministry is a sticking point; as long as folks have to make a decision about Witness Lee's ministry, pro or con, how much or how little, etc., I think there is a problem. As long as the Lord's people need a forum like this one, there is a problem. As long as Christians believe they "need" to read something from WL's ministry on a daily basis, in place of the Bible, there is a problem, and I believe deception is at work.
Whatever is of eternal value in WL's ministry is in the Bible. WL's ministry is full of leaven. He was a pretty good Bible teacher as long as he stuck to the Bible. When he began to think more highly of himself than he ought, he opened the door to deceit in his own life through pride. (My opinion through observation.)
I haven't read Lee for 20 years, at least not without taking a dose of Pepto first. Why read Lee when you can read the Bible? Why not cut out the middle man? I just think it's a good idea to check to see if there is deception in your/my life. I go through a check on a regular basis, and I think it's a healthy thing to put everything on the table and let the Lord show me if and where I may have a wrong thought about Him.
Eve was beguiled or deceived in the garden...paradise no less! There were 2 humans on a magnificent planet...and they were soon deceived. I think we should all assume we are deceived until proven otherwise.
Nell