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Old 10-01-2014, 10:29 AM   #243
Nell
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Default Re: A Wake Up Call - God is Speaking to Us

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Originally Posted by awareness View Post
...This effort to claim America was found by God is hubris.
There is a lot of human behavior surrounding the birth of this country that cannot be reconciled with logic or common civility, much less Christian principles. The same can be said of ancient Israel. I think they may have us beat, though.

I don't believe America was "founded by God" either. I have not seen those words in Cahn's work. It may be there, but I haven't seen it. Historical writings by the Founding Fathers indicate some degree of biblical influence and Christian influence, but "founded by God" isn't something I've seen in Cahn's work. Regardless, I don't believe that's the point Cahn is trying to make.

This is me, but since the Founding Fathers did make some degree of commitment, consecration, etc., to God, America as a nation and a people are bound by their consecration or vows. This would be accurate according to Scripture...you are bound by the vows you make. That's just what I think. I don't know how accurate that is...God knows.

Cahn's work is about the pattern found in Isaiah regarding how God dealt with/judged Israel and the similarities to what may be happening in America today.

The Bible is full of imperfect men (in fact, all but One) and their pursuit of God. More accurately perhaps, God's pursuit of the perfect man He created who subsequently fell into sin. This sinful man needed redemption back to a state where God could fellowship with him, and he with God. God pursued His man, His people, and dealt with them and their sinful state according to a pattern. This was in the Old Testament.

Then comes Jesus! God sent His only Son to accomplish His plan for redemption of sinful man. When that was done, His Son had died. He soon rose from the dead and went away to be with His Father for a time, but told us "I'll be back." That was a long time ago.

So now we wait. We watch. He said He would be back, but speculation about this event is rampant. There are clues about how and when it's going to happen, but his best advice to us is "watch and pray".

So here we are. Watching. Then here comes this Messianic Jew in New York who is sitting around watching. When you watch long enough, you just might see something. Cahn saw a pattern, and he shared it with us. I'm glad he did. It makes sense to me. Now we get to watch, too.

Nell

I know. It's waaay simplistic. I left out a lot of the story. Sorry.
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