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Old 09-29-2014, 09:24 AM   #215
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Default Re: A Wake Up Call - God is Speaking to Us

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Originally Posted by awareness View Post
What about his claim that Isaiah 9:10 parallels 9/11? That's so far fetched that it reaches into the absurd. And all his other parallels are stretched beyond reality too.
Since you asked, here are the verses, and following are the quotes that Senators Daschle and Edwards, then Pres. Obama, in the speeches they delivered on Capitol Hill which make the connection to Isaiah 9:10.

Isaiah 9:8-16
8 The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.
9 And all the people shall know, even Ephraim and the inhabitant of Samaria, that say in the pride and stoutness of heart,
10 The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.
11 Therefore the Lord shall set up the adversaries of Rezin against him, and join his enemies together;
12 The Syrians before, and the Philistines behind; and they shall devour Israel with open mouth. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
13 For the people turneth not unto him that smiteth them, neither do they seek the Lord of hosts.
14 Therefore the Lord will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.
15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed

Isaiah 9:10 is a vow of defiance. Isaiah 9:11 is a prophecy of future calamity.

On September 12, 2001, the day after the attacks on America, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, in a speech on Capitol Hill quotes Isaiah 9:10...we will rebuild. He is surely totally unaware that this verse is a vow of defiance to God. Yet, here is the vow.

Three years later on September 11, 2004, Senator John Edwards quotes the same verse, Isaiah 9:10 and from this verse his entire speech is derived.

February 24, 2009, Barack Obama, on Capitol Hill, states this:
I want every American to know this: We will rebuild. We will recover. And the United States of America will emerge stronger than before.

These men were all speaking to the American people, and on behalf of the American people. They were all referring to the attacks on 9/11.

How is that far fetched? How is that absurd? Daschle, Edwards and Obama made the connection to Isa. 9:10. Not Cahn. Cahn just noticed what they did. Were they aware the verses were spoken in defiance to God? Probably not. They were likely speaking in defiance to those who perpetrated the attacks. Regardless, they were loose in the way they handled the Word.

Coincidence? You may believe that. Speech writers love to quote the Bible, but sure this one could just be a coincidence that 3 men quoted the same verse without knowing it was from the Bible. If this was the only message, you might be right. This is only one example from Cahn's case.

Regardless, its a fascinating compilation of facts like this one and it's overlay on the Old Testament pattern.

Of course, "The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones:" refers to the twin towers. Interestingly though, at ground zero there actually was a sycamore tree that was uprooted and later replaced with a cedar. Somehow the uprooted sycamore wasn't covered in rubble...it was that close to ground zero. The uprooted sycamore is still there. ( "...the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.")


Nell

Just so you'll know, Cahn makes no comment on 9:10 and 9/11. That is likely coincidence, but who knows?
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