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Originally Posted by Friedel
Thank you.
I detect a slippery precipice. Abraham was not a Jew so God's covenant with him does include us. Then there was the Old Covenant with natural Israel that finally ended in 70 AD. The New Covenant that started with the death, resurrection and ascension of the Lord Jesus Christ in 30 AD includes us.
Isn't there some confusion here between the Jews of Judaism and Zionism? Orthodox Jews in Israel and especially in New York distance them from Zionism and they refuse to fight in the Israeli Defense Force.
Who are we talking about now? David Ben-Gurion, the father of modern Israel "hated Judaism more than any other man he had met", according to modern orthodox philipsopher, Yeshayahu Leibowitz. (Source: Wikipedia.)
So, if the Zionists hate Judaism and the Jews of Judaism hate Zionism, where does that leave us?
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Abraham was a Hebrew, a river crosser.
The covenant God made with him is for the whole world.
"The LORD had said to Abram, "Go from your country, your people and your father's household to the land I will show you. "I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."" - Gen 12:1-3 NIV
It is still ongoing as the plan is not over, has not been completely fulfilled. But more than anything, God is a God of covenant. He's not a covenant breaker. His words are not light. What He says He will do.
Does the Bible ever say that the Mosaic covenant ended? Or did God just add a new covenant?
There's always a lot of confusion but not necessarily a distinction between ALL Zionists and ALL of Judaism. Some are in both camps.
As always, that leaves us seeking to know Him in His word and to follow Him.