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Old 09-05-2014, 08:06 AM   #114
zeek
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Default Re: Authority and Submission

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Originally Posted by awareness View Post
Will a google search satisfy you?
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=cult+thinking
There are blogs on both sides of the "cult" issue. Consequently, it doesn't make for a strong argument against Watchman Nee particularly for Local Churchers. Nee's position disqualifies all argument as disobedience and rebellion. But, Nee himself uses reason and argument to make his case. Even the method of presenting Bible stories and drawing principles for Christians to follow is a kind of reasoning which is central to both Nee and Lee. Thus, Nee and Lee by practicing reasoning while denying it to their subordinates created a double standard. One standard for authorities and another for underlings.


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So is the earth is gonna open up and suck us directly into Sheol?
Maybe that was why you got a sinkhole in yer yard. Sheol is comin ta getchya. That'll learn ya to use reason.That's why I've become unreasonable.
I think you're committing a fallacy of misplaced concreteness. As applied by Nee, the "sinkhole" in Numbers symbolizes God's condemnation which is categorical for anyone who reasons contrary to delegated authority. By that criteria we are already condemned when we think critically about God's recovery. From the standpoint of reason, on the other hand, God's Recovery is untenable. Too bad I wasn't thinking critically when I was proselytized for the Local Churches. I could have avoided the whole Nee/Lee life cul de sac.
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