Hey Dave, nice to bump into you again. It's been awhile. Hope you and yours are well.
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Originally Posted by Dave
Awareness...that Mel Porter quote is a hoot.
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The Mel Porter quote that's really a hoot is what he told me when he gave me an ultimatum. This is what he said that opened my eyes to being in a cult :
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"You have to take my personality as your own, and if you want to blow your nose, you have to ask me which side first. Or get out."
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That was an eye opener. Actually it pretty much caused my jaw to drop, and eyes to pop out. Mel had some big brass ones. Take his personality as my own? I may as well have checked into a mental hospital. After that statement, a mental hospital looked to be a step up. I was already in crazy town.
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Originally Posted by Dave
Interesting stuff you and VoiceintheWilderness gave regarding the history of the Church in Detroit. . . . . I always thought Harry was the sane one of the bunch whereas the other two were a little spacey. They were certainly obsessed with WL and his teachings. I remember when I first met Tim and he told me he had been directly trained by WL which gave him certain inside knowledge that the rest of us lacked.
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Seemed to me the only training Tim got was military training. He was lacking any noticeable spiritual mojo, as far as I could see, and so had to borrowed some from Witness Lee, to impress you. Were you impressed?
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Originally Posted by Dave
Didn't realize they tried to reclaim Detroit a couple times until they finally did in 1979.
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And then, bro Ohio can testify, years later they were quarntined by LSM, along with Titus, and his following. Maybe "Voice" can chime in on that.
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Originally Posted by Dave
The LC was certainly in some upheaval in the late 70s but I think it started with the Revelation training which I attended. Basically because of the notion of the overcomers and unless you were in the top echelon you were short of achieving this superior state. You needed to do more and more to arrive at some spiritual pinnacle. Otherwise you would end up in some kind of purgatory.
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Was there. Carried a constant knot in my gut trying to be an overcomer. Didn't even know what it meant, or what to do. That overcomer stuff was impossible. Turned out it was a cattle driver.
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Originally Posted by Dave
Kind of like reaching for perfection that the Buddhists try to achieve to get out of the six cycles of ghosts, semi-gods etc.
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I'd like to hear more about that. Just not here. Don't want UntoHim to pop a cork. And I'm not sure how many out here have any interest in Buddhism. Hey Carol E. wife of Jim E. in Detroit and Ft. Laud. is a Buddhist now (I love her dearly and am still close with her). Others too. Are you a Buddhist now?