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Originally Posted by Roger
Anyway, I agree that Matt has a legitimate point; but not THE legitimate point - which has been MY point all along.
Roger
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Roger,
Where did I say I had THE legitimate point? Please quote me. I have spoken strongly to establish the fact that there was widespread, pervasive idolatry in the LCS that affected every locality and almost every person. I've said the LCS is an idolatrous system.
Maybe the strength of what I have said makes you think I think it is THE ONLY legitimate point, but that never entered my mind.
I know you reacted to my use of the word 'idolatry' and likened it to the use of the word 'cult' on the other forum. The difference is this. Idolatry is a Biblical subject that is very important to God. Labeling a group as a 'cult' or 'not-a-cult' is not shown to be very important to God.
What I believe is that it (idolatry) was "a factor" and yes, a serious one from God's point of view. I may even have said a "key factor", but never THE factor.
I never said that simply being a member forced you to commit idolatry. What I said was that being a member caused most to stumble in regards to idolatry. There is a huge difference between these two.
If you are in an environment that is full of a certain kind of problem and everyone is saying, "the water is fine, jump in, it feels great". What do most do? They jump in.
Ohio,
When I say God's point of view, I am talking about learning His language (I don't mean Hebrew) and His viewpoint as demonstrated through many stories in the OT. Paul recommends this approach and therefore my statements about it are about me taking Paul's
good advice. It's not about thinking I stand in the position of God because I am trying to look at it from His point of view.
I will still call you to clear the air on this matter.
Matt