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Old 08-14-2014, 12:04 AM   #91
zeek
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Default Re: God's Eternal Purpose

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Originally Posted by InChristAlone View Post
No, I don't. Theosis doesn't come from the Eucharist. And it doesn't come from the Church. We Christians get it by God's grace. But the Eucharist is a part of the process. You have to eat the Lord's flesh and drink His blood. And that's what the Eastern Orthodox Christians have been doing for almost 2 000 years. Will they experience theosis? It's not a correct question. We are not talking about some magic pills. We are talking about Sacraments. Theosis is the goal and process; and the Eucharist is a component of the process. Besides, theosis is "becoming by grace what God is by nature". I believe the Orthodox Church is the original ancient Christian Church founded by Christ and apostles, not a medieval modification like Roman Catholics nor a modern sects like the LRC. So, we don't claim that God's grace belong to the Church and her members. It belongs to God and it's only Him who decides who will experience theosis. The life and future of an Orthodox Christian is in God's hands. It's the same about any other Christian. It's not his or her church or sect but God Who makes the decision. Therefore, it's only God knows who will be transformed and who will not.


I am not aware of that. The Bible is the book of the Church. It was compiled by the Church Fathers long before Lee, Nee and even Luther. So the Bible was compiled by the Church Fathers and it were the Church Fathers who commented it. Our theologians keep the Holy Tradition received from the Fathers.

Just a few links about the Church history:

http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith7053
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rthodox_Church Wiki
http://www.antiochian.org/orthodox-church-history (Time line)
http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/history.aspx
Well then perhaps your church is the true one and Lee's is a false one. You seem to think so and you have apostolic succession and an unbroken tradition to back you up. Have either you or someone you know been transformed into a God-like state through the theosis process? If so, what is that like?
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