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Originally Posted by OBW
First, "became" is only implied in the part about the last Adam, but clearly so.
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Why do you say this Mike? You can look up the Greek word for became, or, was made (KJV). Please explain.
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Originally Posted by O
Actually, that is what we have been talking about. The mortal body is sown in death and what it "becomes" is resurrected immortal and spiritual. That has been what Paul was talking about the whole time. While he did not use the word "became" in the earlier verses, it is the same thing. Nothing new. Here in 15:45 he says "became."
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So Paul, when he writes "became (ginomai)" is referring back to the resurrection of the last Adam?
If so, it doesn't leave doubt undisturbed, but I can except that, for now.
Let's move on to another part of the verse:
"And so it is written ..."
Where was it written? Was it lost to us? Did there exist back then what Paul considered to be scripture, where "it was written," that is lost to us?
And since he's referencing this to the Corinthians, like they would know of it, was it considered scripture to the Corinthians?
Is this another case where the Corinthians had an inside track, that we're not privy to?
Or maybe someone out here knows "where it was written?" I'm itchin' to know it.
But I may be out in left field here, "it is written" may only apply to the first Adam becoming a living soul.
But it doesn't read that way. It's written by Paul like the whole statement was written.
To be honest, Paul in this verse just isn't clear. So we're force to read into it, what we think he meant.
And that's such a wildcard that it allows Witness Lee to claim the last Adam, Christ, is the Holy Spirit.
But not just Lee, but Gaffin, who claims
"it seems fair to say, across a broad front a substantial majority of commentators and other interpreters who address the issue recognize a reference to the Holy Spirit in v. 45."
Which means Lee prolly was cross-pollination by these commentators, and didn't get it as a revelation from God ... that he was pretending to have.