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Originally Posted by Igzy
My point was whether you are trying to make a entreaty or are trying to prove something either way your reasoning is faulty. Buying into "the vision of the church" isn't idolatry, anymore than buying into Campus Crusade's vision of evangelizing American colleges is idolatry. They are both visions of Christian service based on the Bible.
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That's sounds reasonable enough if the analogy is an equivalency. It's not equivalent.
1. The "giving" of oneself to the "vision of the church" was far more than the what happens in Campus Crusade.
2. Campus Crusade has proven itself to be an organization with high integrity. They are not like the LC.
I think you've made the logical error of a false analogy.
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Originally Posted by Igzy
The main problem in the LC is not idolatry. The main problem is the pressure to conform based on a warped vision of authority. The pressure probably leads people to cheerlead "Christ and the Church" in an imbalanced way, because that is what the authoritry figures demand. But that doesn't make the cheerleading idolatry. The problem is much more complex than that. It's a system of psychological checks and barriers which convinces LCers that they have no choice but to (1) stay in the movement and (2) obey the leadership. What needs to be dismantled is that system which holds them there. I doubt many LCers stay in the movement just so they can hold onto idols.
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I'm not ranking the problems and I actually think that in almost all idolatrous systems there is a coupling of bad concepts and practices of authority with false teachings. They are not separate concerns.
When I have been in sin of a more serious and fundamental sort, I haven't been quick to acknowledge what I am doing or have done. I like to shape it into something other than what it is. Eventually, the Lord gets through. Thank the Lord.
Where do you find "psychological barriers" in the Bible? Or to what do you equate it in the word?
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