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Old 07-30-2014, 07:45 AM   #337
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Default Re: "Become" or "Not Become" Interpreting 1Cor 15:45

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And Lee was not that far with it. My problem with Lee's position is that he seems to have little use for the Three of the Trinity other than to argue that it is there to prove that he is not a modalist. He liked the oneness side of things so strongly that he saw no purpose for the Three. They were just One to him. That was all that mattered.

(And when he came to 1 Cor 15:45, he had a position that needed to be supported, so he declared that there could be no life-giving spirit other than the Spirit, so, presto-chango, Christ becomes the Holy Spirit. I beleive that it was a foregone conclusion to Lee. He just needed a way to prove it. So he sees something he can "simply" to death and changes tha nature of he Godhead.)

And it does matter that they are One. But not entirely and exclusively. Otherwise the inspiration and ink spent on describing the Three in the scripture was a waste of time by God. And I don't think he was wasting his time.
That's my conclusion. That God being Three means something and communicates something to us that is important, and Lee neglected that something.

I've made the argument in the past that Lee discounted relationships and diversity (calling them soulish and natural, etc). He isolated people from each other and was suspicious of differences. One way he could lean that way was to more or less discount the relationship and diversity of the Father and the Son. The idea of loving the other was foreign to him. The Trinity to him was totally about process, not about relationship. Lee's theology and practical teaching totally stems from his view of God. It lauded oneness and cursed diversity.

1 Cor 15:45 was just one more instance where he saw fit to push the oneness side of God. I think he truly believed that the experience of Christ was made easier by seeing the connection between Christ and the Spirit--since the Spirit is our immediate experience, Christ would be so as well (and I agree). But he made that point too much and too hard, to the neglect and expense of the diversity/relationship side of the Trinity, and all other diversity and relationship as well.
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