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Originally Posted by UntoHim
Boy, this might be the first time "the space-time continuum" was mentioned on the forum...guess there's a first time for everything. I think Paul describes his experience in about as much detail as he could muster in 2 Corinthians 12:
...I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord. I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows. And I know that this man was caught up into paradise—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows—and he heard things that cannot be told, which man may not utter.
Pretty heady stuff from a conservative Jewish rabbi. I don't believe that "visions and revelations of the Lord" were part of the curriculum in 1st century Judaism. This was clearly a special and unique "experience" that Paul went through. I'm not altogether sure that this experience was through "an ordinary human cognitive apparatus like the rest of us", and since this experience was unique to Paul, I don't think it really matters one way or another.
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So when Paul said "I know a man," he was talking about himself? Why would Paul speak in the 3rd person, and switch to 1st person, and end it with:
2Co 12:5 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities.
Is Paul to us so beyond "an ordinary human cognitive apparatus like the rest of us" that we've got to attribute "I know a man" to Paul?