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Old 05-28-2014, 04:37 PM   #31
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Default Re: "Become" or "Not Become" Interpreting 1Cor 15:45

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At the time I heard, "the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit," apparently a huge need of mine was met within. The verse -- admittedly taken out of context -- Context!?! who cared about Context?!? -- since for the first time in my life I was made alive -- Alive together with Christ.
Ohio,

The thing about your experience in this particular case is that you were made to realize something that was not exactly what Lee was talking about. It appears that you were not concerned with Jesus becoming the Holy Spirit, but rather with the fact that the "last Adam" gives life.

And that has never been disputed. While technically unnecessary to Paul's ongoing discussion there in 1 Corinthians, he slipped in the fact that the one who received this "spiritual" body is, in fact, one who gives life. That is note-worthy even if you are not tracking with Paul or with Lee.

But, oddly, I'm not sure that you were "for the first time . . . made alive." Just for the first time made aware of it. I won't even get into any arguments about your spiritual status during your days in Catholicism. But, except by stroke of timing, I bet you were already "made alive" before you heard this particular passage spoken of, whether with correct or incorrect understanding of its context.

I'm not dismissing your revelation. I'm wondering if it is being described accurately. Were you already made alive when you heard that verse? If so, then what was different when you heard it? Your realization about things that were already true? It is an exciting revelation. So the follow-on question is "what did knowing do for you?"

I'm trying to find my way through the world between "you don't need to know anything and it doesn't matter how you say it," and "the better your lexicon, the better your spiritual experience." I don't think either is uniquely right. And it may be that too close to either extreme is wrong. If I know nothing, then what am I believing. But if I think that saying it better is important, then I am probably creating yet one more Christian idol. Somewhere in there at way less than theological genius but more than "I don't know — whatever that guy says" is probably real and meaningful for most of us.
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