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Thankful Jane · 09-01-2008, 02:38 PM

I agree that the ground of locality teaching was not the only thing present in the 50s and 60s in Taiwan. Authority teachings were clearly being practiced, because Lee was dealing with his "lieutenants." Yes, money and property were also involved. All these are roots of a serious problem.

Didn't we become involved in that problem? Didn't we end up with the "locality teaching" becoming a factor of oneness? Didn't we end up with a hierarchy of Lee and his lieutenants who condemned and labeled others as being in rebellion. Didn't we end up fighting over property? There is great big fruit all over the place for us to look at to make these assessments.

When we gave ourselves to Lee's vision and practice, we entered into something that was clearly off track from day one. It was unclean because of what had just happend in Taiwan under Lee's direction. We entered into an unholy alliance with him when we adopted his definition of practical oneness, one that had a smaller scope than the whole Body of Christ. He convinced us we were "standing" for others until they saw. Was this true? We kicked brother's out left and right in the years to come, just like Taiwan, yet we were standing for the oneness of the body of Christ and paving the way for others?

In our early days, yes, we experienced the Lord together! (... and we all still love each other, even though we sometimes behave like a dysfunctional family in the hills of Arkansas a la the Hatfields and the McCoys).

We had wonderful experiences of the Lord together. How could it have been otherwise? We were all believers with the Lord in us. It was an inevitablility. We gave credit to Lee for our experience, but was it to his credit or was it because of Jesus? I was having an huge experience of the Lord before I ever heard the name of Witness Lee and before I had one thought about something called "genuine" oneness. I don't think I'm alone in that. Was our experience really due to our "high vision" of ground of locality? I can now give a resounding NO. I see now that it was in spite of it. Was it because of our developing hierarchy? NO. It was in spite of it. What was the reason for our joy together? JESUS ONLY! JESUS IN YOU. JESUS IN ME.

Did we all become involved in something the Bible calls idolatry? I'll speak for myself. I did. Each one of us has to answer that question for ourself. Maybe God is giving us a head start and time to think about that before He asks us in person. This morning as I was in the Word, I became clear that I had become a worshipper at a high place that Lee set up and I repented in a more thorough way, with more understanding, than I have done before. I'll share more about what I realized about high places in another post.

Thankful Jane

09-01-2008, 02:38 PM	#694
Thankful Jane Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 295	I agree that the ground of locality teaching was not the only thing present in the 50s and 60s in Taiwan. Authority teachings were clearly being practiced, because Lee was dealing with his "lieutenants." Yes, money and property were also involved. All these are roots of a serious problem. Didn't we become involved in that problem? Didn't we end up with the "locality teaching" becoming a factor of oneness? Didn't we end up with a hierarchy of Lee and his lieutenants who condemned and labeled others as being in rebellion. Didn't we end up fighting over property? There is great big fruit all over the place for us to look at to make these assessments. When we gave ourselves to Lee's vision and practice, we entered into something that was clearly off track from day one. It was unclean because of what had just happend in Taiwan under Lee's direction. We entered into an unholy alliance with him when we adopted his definition of practical oneness, one that had a smaller scope than the whole Body of Christ. He convinced us we were "standing" for others until they saw. Was this true? We kicked brother's out left and right in the years to come, just like Taiwan, yet we were standing for the oneness of the body of Christ and paving the way for others? In our early days, yes, we experienced the Lord together! (... and we all still love each other, even though we sometimes behave like a dysfunctional family in the hills of Arkansas a la the Hatfields and the McCoys). We had wonderful experiences of the Lord together. How could it have been otherwise? We were all believers with the Lord in us. It was an inevitablility. We gave credit to Lee for our experience, but was it to his credit or was it because of Jesus? I was having an huge experience of the Lord before I ever heard the name of Witness Lee and before I had one thought about something called "genuine" oneness. I don't think I'm alone in that. Was our experience really due to our "high vision" of ground of locality? I can now give a resounding NO. I see now that it was in spite of it. Was it because of our developing hierarchy? NO. It was in spite of it. What was the reason for our joy together? JESUS ONLY! JESUS IN YOU. JESUS IN ME. Did we all become involved in something the Bible calls idolatry? I'll speak for myself. I did. Each one of us has to answer that question for ourself. Maybe God is giving us a head start and time to think about that before He asks us in person. This morning as I was in the Word, I became clear that I had become a worshipper at a high place that Lee set up and I repented in a more thorough way, with more understanding, than I have done before. I'll share more about what I realized about high places in another post. Thankful Jane Last edited by Thankful Jane; 09-01-2008 at 03:02 PM.