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Old 03-13-2014, 08:59 AM   #984
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Default Re: My Unforgettable Memories: Watchman Nee and Shanghai Local Church - Dr.

Originally Posted by awareness View Post
I'm not playing the fool, but I think I've come across Nee teaching the MOTA doctrine. I'll find it and put it in a separate post.

And BTW bro Ohio is not playing, the fool or otherwise. Pushing bro Ohio down is not conducive to the pursuit of truth. It tends to reveal bias.

I'm the one, I think, that posted the google translation from your website.

Sorry I'm so dumb, but would you make it plain where your Chinese site exists, and your English translation version, and link 'em both? I joined your Chinese site. Does that mean I'm a member of your English translation/website too? And thanks for your personal welcome ... that I haven't received yet.

I'm after the truth too. So I'm sincerely interested in your work. So far, to be honest, what you've shown on your website dovetails with Lily's testimony. Am I being one of those you claim can't read? Maybe I need to stop translating yer Chinese site and start reading the English version.

Damn ... I wrote a post and didn't mock. Must be dissembling somehow. Will get back to mocking ASAP.
Harold the English and Chinese language site known as which you have joined is owned, run and administrated by myself. The English translations on that site are all commissioned by myself and the translators are all Chinese linguists and professional translators living in mainland china. The site is hosted on a privately owned server. I own the server. The server is hosted in a Swiss Data Centre to protect it from US, EU and Chinese intervention.

The site known as is a Chinese only site. It is hosted in the United States. The contributors have identified themselves on that site with photographs and testimonies. They state their own purposes and they say it plainly, albeit it is written in Chinese. Clearly they are writing to Chinese speaking brethren. The site has a privacy guard which means that no one can actually see who owns the site. This privacy guard is called Domain By Proxy. It is a right to privacy tool exercised on US Territorial Internet Facilities.

The WHOIS Domain information therefore reads thus:

Domain ID: D169244486-LROR
Creation Date: 2013-07-19T18:53:09Z
Updated Date: 2013-09-18T03:45:56Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2014-07-19T18:53:09Z
Sponsoring, LLC (R91-LROR)
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL:
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID:CR147513222
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organizationomains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:SHANGHAICHRISTIANASSEMBLY.ORG@domainsbyproxy .com
Admin ID:CR147513224
Admin Name:Registration Private
Admin Organizationomains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street:
Admin City:Scottsdale
Admin State/Province:Arizona
Admin Postal Code:85260
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:SHANGHAICHRISTIANASSEMBLY.ORG@domainsbyproxy .com
Tech ID:CR147513223
Tech Name:Registration Private
Tech Organizationomains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street:
Tech City:Scottsdale
Tech State/Province:Arizona
Tech Postal Code:85260
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:SHANGHAICHRISTIANASSEMBLY.ORG@domainsbyproxy .com

For your information the Name Server in the ARPA DNS Resolution Database points to as the hosting provider.

The WHOIS Domain Registration Details for reads thus:

Domain Name:
ROID: 20140220s10001s70105448-cn
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: at1305882971572
Registrant: Andrew Michiel Robert Kelly
Registrant Contact Email:
Sponsoring Registrar: Ascio Technologies Inc.
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Registration Date: 2014-02-20 18:35:14
Expiration Date: 2015-02-20 18:35:14
DNSSEC: unsigned

The Name Servers as you can see are, and

Hostpoint is the Swiss Data Centre the .ch first level domain suffix means Switzerland.

This means that is hosted on my server in Switzerland. This is to protect it from gateway attacks from China and the USA.

However it is a legal requirement that to own a Chinese National Domain Name the owner must identify themselves to the Chinese Government and provide a copy of their passport.

The English Translation which is entitled 'The Memorable Year 1948' is taken from at the URL

It is originally written in Chinese. The translation which I am hosting on my server is translated from that original Chinese version website. I have no connection with those brethren whatsoever other than in the Spirit.

I sent you an e-mail Harold already it has been received and read. You have also acknowledged it here in your last post. As for whether I invite comments on my site that will very much be a matter of substance and not personality. I don't do internet chat as a rule.
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