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Old 01-13-2014, 08:38 PM   #34
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Default Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

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Presumably your association of these verses has something to do with the use of the English word "destroy" in them.

However, the words translated "destroy" in 1 Cor 3:17, 1 Cor 6:13 and Matthew 10:28 are actually three completely different Greek words.

In 1 Cor 3:17 the word is phtherei, which means literally "SHALL BE CORRUPTING." The meaning is that if you attempt to corrupt the temple of God you will only succeed in being corrupted yourself.
Being corrupted sounds like you become blemished and unholy. That's not reassuring to me because it reminds me of verses like these

Hebrews 12:14
Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.

Matthew 5:48
You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Philippians 2:15
That you may be blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and twisted generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world,

Ephesians 5:27
so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.

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In 1 Cor 6:13 the Greek word is katargEsei, which literally means "SHALL BE DOWN-UN-ACTING" or, anglicized, "shall be discarding." It implies doing away with something that isn't needed anymore. It isn't about judgment. Food and stomachs will not be needed in the next age.
This is not reassuring either because things you don't need anymore are thrown into the garbage. Jesus may have wisely chosen the word Gehenna which was a garbage dump, when making references to hell and it reminds me of verses like these

Luke 14:34-35
“Salt is good, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored?. It is of no use either for the soil or for the manure pile. It is thrown away. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

Matthew 7
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.

Revelation 20:15
And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Also, overcoming is required to make sure your name stays in the book of life:

Revelation 3:5
'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

They may be different Greek words for destroy, but they all seem to be pointing to the same result: Not inheriting the kingdom of God, and thereby perishing for eternity in either outer darkness or the lake of fire.

I'm sorry I don't enjoy being a debbie downer at all. I think I will do something positive now like pet a puppy. Perhaps what keeps me going is Revelation 3:8 where God admonishes us to not deny his word.
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