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Originally Posted by Ohio
Name me some people in the Bible who have made it into your utopian heaven, because according to your standards none of the apostles have made it either.
You said "very few are saved." That's three to me.
Who are these three? Can't be Abraham, David, or Peter -- we know all about their history of "disobedience." All the world knows their stories. When they arrived at your "utopian heaven," Jesus ran out to slam the door, saying, "nope, can't recognize any of you guys."
Bear, just because you can spout off lots of verses condemning all the rest of us, doesn't give you much hope either. The Pharisees tried that same strategy on Jesus.
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So if you read 2 Timothy 2:19 carefully it says "depart from wickedness" which is different from "being separated from wickedness". God is merciful and loving and only lays on us the burden to walk towards the right direction regardless of where we are at.
Repentance is "turning" not total sanctification.
It just means we turn around where we'll currently walking. Before we were walking towards the door the leads to death, after repenting we are on the path that leads to life. We may be even near the pits of hell like the thief was on the cross, but he was saved because he 'turned'.
When we repent and turn we will experience true rest. It may be hard but we all have total control over our hearts.
Hebrews 4:11
Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience.