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Originally Posted by Matt
Ohio,
I get the fact that I am in the extreme here. I'm going to stay out here in the extreme for a while and really backup what is being said. The main reason why is because it is one of the root causes of the destruction of families and something that has had a lot of impact on the 2nd generation. I really can back this up. I know that not everyone will buy it. That's fine with me and I will defend my position rigorously on this issue. I'll also challenge the likes of SC and Hope when the defense that is attempted is subpar.
And yes, there is a Cry Room of sorts on this forum. I can Leed the way over there and show it to you.
For years, you listened to Lee castigate the RCC and didn't have a problem with that. Why do you have a problem with this?
I'm wondering if you realize that your stance has completely changed based on one apparent factor.
When you thought that these issues are pointed only at the Leedership then you didn't have as much of a problem with it. However, when it changes to possibly apply to everyone (Leedership and Leemen), then you interpret it differently. I'm not 'beating you up', just making a pretty simple observation for consideration.
No one, including me, likes it when the topic points homeward.
Matt
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Reuben, is that you?
Matt, eventually I and my family suffered much when I "put into action" all that WL "hate talk" against the RCC back during the Revelations Training. One brother who initially helped me in the LC, wanted me to go back to the RCC and "publicly resign" and rebuke those people. Fortunately I didn't do that. But ... I did accuse my family of idolatry, and it did little good ... other than to puff me up as some present day "Elijah." Did you read my story about getting a rope tied to my car and pulling down that huge idol a couple doors down from the Cleveland Meeting Hall? Fortunately, I didn't do that either.
I do believe the loving gospel of grace is far more effective.
Matt, it does NOT help to take extreme views here. When you said "
challenge the likes of SC and Hope," it seems to me that you are more bent on creating enemies than helping people. This is why I appear in my posts to be concerned.
And just to prevent any confusion, the joke about the 2x4 was in no way intended to hit someone, but rather to "prop them up" when the pressure is on.