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Originally Posted by OBW
But the event that sparked this thread is as it should have been — even for a fellowship that we all like and respect.
I'm not saying that there is not a problem with everything that has gone on. I'm saying that the bare fact of being ousted is not the problem. It should have been expected of any group.
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But if you go outside and speak against the group, they have identified that you are not truly part of the group and to allow you to come among them as if you are a part is a farce. So the reason given is sufficient.
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And, while you can argue that there was not a trial, technically, that is laying a requirement of American jurisprudence onto the process.
Rejoice.
And return to the discussion of what is behind their errors. The things they do right are not what we should gripe about.
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Well I disagree. What have they done right? I am not laying American jurisprudence on the church at all - there is Matthew 18:15. If there is a disagreement, if a brother sins against you, first tell one, then tell a couple, then tell the whole church. If they don't like something I did, they can follow Jesus' words - first tell me, then a couple, then the church and then, if I do not see the error, they can treat me as a tax collector or Gentile. They jumped straight to "tax collector".
Anyway I don't blame them, they are only human. But exclusion is a serious matter in the church, it is one of Witness Lee's own six tests for a genuine local church.