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Originally Posted by zeek
The Bible documents that not everyone accepted Jesus as the messiah. So, he must have been messiah in a way that was not unambiguously clear to everyone. If he had been a messiah in the way the jews expected him to be it would have been apparent to everyone. He would have overthrown the Romans and taken the throne of Israel. That didn't happen in any unambiguously apparent way. The inerrant bible records that such is the case.
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This post assigns some responsibility to God that He did not adequately make the coming of the Messiah clear enough, or unambiguous enough, or unambiguously clear and apparent enough to His chosen people.
I disagreed with
zeek's complaint, and cited a few obvious evidences. Then he replies with this ...
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Originally Posted by zeek
So Lazarus was prophesied in the the OT? Please show me where. How many people witnessed the raising of Lazarus? I'm surprised it didn't get in the history books outside of the Gospel of John. Great deed that it was even the other Gospels don't mention it. Nor does Paul. It seems it was a relatively hidden event, historically speaking.
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Is this a joke?
The raising of Lazarus from the dead occurred just days before His Palm Sunday walk from Bethany to Jerusalem, about two miles long. It was headlines news in all the Jerusalem papers. The whole city was buzzing about Lazarus being alive. This was one of Jesus' few visits to Judea, and it was His last.
Many of the Jews in Judea believed in Jesus because of this miracle. Immediately the Pharisees had to gather to take control. They knew if they did nothing, everyone would believe in Jesus. They knew that the Romans would come. Then the high priest concluded that Jesus must die to save the whole nation. Everything was according to the Father's plan.
zeek, you might try to dismiss the raising of Lazarus as an insignificant event, but it was absolutely instrumental to fulfill God's plan. From that day forward, the Pharisees were obsessed with killing Jesus. These chief priests also planned to murder Lazarus, because on account of him many Jews believed in Jesus.
As Jesus rode on that colt as the Prince of Peace into the city of Jerusalem, all the city went out to greet Him, crying "
Hosanna, blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord, the King of Israel." The crowd went out to worship Jesus because they had heard He had just raised Lazarus from the dead. The Pharisees then began to turn on one another saying, "
you worthless good for nothing, behold, the whole world has gone after Him!" Less than one week later, He was crucified, saying, "
It is finished!"
zeek, it is troublesome that you give so much credit to secular history and secular "scholarship," and often dismiss things related to the Bible as meany or insignificant.