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Old 04-30-2013, 08:48 AM   #21
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Nigel Tomes "Sacrament ..."

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Originally Posted by Ohio View Post
I can't see how Lee's "one city one church" rises to the level of a "damnable heresy, denying even the Master who bought us."

Pentecostal Christians make the same arguments about "praying in the Spirit," i.e. praying in tongues. They are convinced that God's full blessing, i.e. the "full experience of the Triune God" is only experienced by those who "worship in the Spirit." They look with pity upon their Christian brethren who have not embraced the "gifts" of the Spirit, and have missed out on these promised blessings. The case could be made that they also consider tongues to be their "sacrament." Paul does make the case that tongues can be a childish toy to some immature ones.

They have their points. I could never in good conscience say that the insistence of some to speak in tongues rises to the level of heresy, "denying the Master who redeemed us." It is unfortunate, however, that every time the Bible says "in the Spirit," the Pentecostals do interpret this as praying in tongues.

Yes "heresy" refers to "schools of thought" in the original language, but Peter's use of the word must be reserved for those errant lines of reasoning that "deny the Master who bought them." In this way they propose another means of salvation apart from Christ, our Redeemer, and reject the deity of Christ, our Lord. The Jehovah Witnesses immediately come to mind.
Deny – to refuse the truth of.

Do you agree that the NT truth regarding our oneness is something that was obtained solely by the Lord’s earthly ministry, particularly His work on the cross (both crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension) as well as the sending of the Spirit? If so, does the teaching of “one city one church” deny this truth requiring something in addition to the Lord's work for us to have the "proper" oneness?

Denying the work of the cross is equivalent to denying “the Lord who bought them”. If I argue that the Lord's work is 90% of our oneness then I am denying the truth that the Lord's work is 100% of our oneness.

The Apostle Peter does not refer to apostasy or blasphemy. He doesn’t say they speak sacrilegiously about Jesus, or that he spoke profanely about Jesus, or that he renounced his faith in Jesus. He said that he has a non orthodox teaching of the NT, this teaching creates a sect of Christians, dividing the Body, which is damnable. This teaching requires us to stand on something other than the Lord's work of redemption, hence it denies the Lord who bought us.

According to UntoHim in post 58 the ground of the LSM/Local churches is the "person and work of WL". That, to my understanding, is to deny the Lord who bought us.
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